Breakout Session: Greg Surratt
This breakout session which is my 5th is with Greg Surratt. He’s a pastor at Seacoast Church in Charleston, SC. He’s going to talk about developing a leadership farm system. This is about how a church will develop small group leaders, pastors, elders, team leaders, and church starters from within the church, not hire outside the church. I’m tired.
How do we do this?
1. Cast vision. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got that. Next.
2. Choose the right leaders. What are the right leaders?
A. Visionary Leaders: They’re able to see what could be and should be when others don’t.
B. Resourceful Leaders: They’re able to do what could be and should be with limited resources. They don’t use money as excuses to not lead
C. Inspirational Leaders: They can inspire and recruit folks to dream with them and work toward the goal. Good communicators.
(This is sounding an awful lot like church growth vomit. Did I tell you that I was tired?)
D. Delegating Leaders: They love people and get excited when seeing other getting involved in the mission.
3. Build a Ministry Pipeline (2 Kings 4:2-4) (Beware, this sucka is about to warp the Scriptures for his purposes)
--The solution to your problem is probably in your own house.
--We are usually too quick to say there is nothing in the house.
--We need to have a system ready so God can provide a leader.
How do you develop the system?
--Define the pipeline. Oh my gosh this is hokey. I’m hating typing it. And as I wrote that two people got up and left. Godspeed my friends. We need to tell people how we're developing them into leaders.
--Develop the process. How will we teach what we want people to be, know, and do. It can't be limited by time or space. It can't be Wed. night at 7pm. It has to be people based. Have it when the leaders to be developed can meet and where they can meet. It's flexible. I like this so see I'm not too hard on him. Man, I'm glad I'm not speaking at this think. I'd wear me out!
--Identify where the folks are in the pipeline. What have they mastered?
--Help each person take the next step. Let them know where and what they need to do now.
These last two he didn't get to because he was a poor communicator who told stories instead of teach. Oh relax. I'm just joking.
4. Empower them to do ministry.
5. Review their progress.
How do we do this?
1. Cast vision. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got that. Next.
2. Choose the right leaders. What are the right leaders?
A. Visionary Leaders: They’re able to see what could be and should be when others don’t.
B. Resourceful Leaders: They’re able to do what could be and should be with limited resources. They don’t use money as excuses to not lead
C. Inspirational Leaders: They can inspire and recruit folks to dream with them and work toward the goal. Good communicators.
(This is sounding an awful lot like church growth vomit. Did I tell you that I was tired?)
D. Delegating Leaders: They love people and get excited when seeing other getting involved in the mission.
3. Build a Ministry Pipeline (2 Kings 4:2-4) (Beware, this sucka is about to warp the Scriptures for his purposes)
--The solution to your problem is probably in your own house.
--We are usually too quick to say there is nothing in the house.
--We need to have a system ready so God can provide a leader.
How do you develop the system?
--Define the pipeline. Oh my gosh this is hokey. I’m hating typing it. And as I wrote that two people got up and left. Godspeed my friends. We need to tell people how we're developing them into leaders.
--Develop the process. How will we teach what we want people to be, know, and do. It can't be limited by time or space. It can't be Wed. night at 7pm. It has to be people based. Have it when the leaders to be developed can meet and where they can meet. It's flexible. I like this so see I'm not too hard on him. Man, I'm glad I'm not speaking at this think. I'd wear me out!
--Identify where the folks are in the pipeline. What have they mastered?
--Help each person take the next step. Let them know where and what they need to do now.
These last two he didn't get to because he was a poor communicator who told stories instead of teach. Oh relax. I'm just joking.
4. Empower them to do ministry.
5. Review their progress.
posted by Josh Perry at
3:07 PM
7 Comments:
Man, eat an energy bar and drink a Red Bull if you are so tired going into a session that you have such a critical spirit...church growth vomit? Arent we supposed to be growing our churches?
Thanks for the comment anonymous. I'd love to have you put your name on your comment if you're going to be critical. You're right about me being critical of the self help stuff at conferences. I admit and confess I get very jaded and cynical at times about all of this. We are to be growing our churches and I'm for that. But rather articulate where I'm coming from I'm getting ready to post the breakout session by Tim Keller. He says it so much better than I. Thanks for the post and I receive your rebuke for being harsh, but I stand by my statement as being accurate.
Josh,
I am a fan of critique. I think it is how we grow best. I am also a fan of sarcasm, its a great form of comedy. I think that you probably meant your post in the spirit of both of those and I grant you, as a fellow Pastor, a measure of grace.
I would suggest, and take it for what it is worth (I am not your spiritual leadership just a fellow Pastor) that we owe all Christ-followers and especially fellow senior Pastors "double honor". I would just ask you to consider what you are teaching your people and if maybe you did not cross the line with your post here. Critique away - Seacoast (and Pastor Greg for that matter)would love to learn from any critique we can find. We are in beta and are always a work in progress - we just want to present Jesus, teach people the Bible, grow leaders, experience God and help people become fully-devoted to Jesus. I hope you will join with us and help us on that journey.
Experiencing Him Together,
Shawn Wood
Teaching Pastor
Seacoast Church
http://www.seacoast.org
I think I understand where you were coming from in your post..I have read a few and I get your 'style', but I have to agree with Shawn that senior pastors should be afforded respect even if you disagree with their methodology or delivery.
Think about what your comments are teaching the people of your congregation who will most likely read this blog.
Also, I'd be interested to know how you feel that the passage in 2 Kings was 'warped'.
Alright, alright, let’s dial everything down a little. I can tell I’ve offended my brothers and that doesn’t please me. In fact it bothers me. I appreciate that you’ve picked up how I write, but that doesn’t mean you know who I am. And who I am is a very sarcastic quick tongued communicator that says things too harshly on occasion. Well, actually more than that. But I’m also a man who is deeply interested in the gospel, preaching the Bible well, healthy local churches, redeeming Huntington, WV, and reproducing churches out of Crew. I’m also a pastor of a very young church that needs discernment on theological issues. We wrestle regularly with how we aren’t going to chase every fad and method but will learn and grow from them. If that wasn’t the case I wouldn’t be at this conference. I appreciate the work that is happening at this conference and at seacoast church. But I disagree with some of it, as I’m sure you’d disagree with what we do at Crew, and articulated that in a sarcastic and hurtful way. I apologize for my callousness of expression and in no way think Greg, or any of the leaders I disagree with methodologically, are bad pastors, leaders, or men. In fact I’m very convinced they are better leaders and pastors and men than I am. I’m attempting to report on the fly primarily to my church and anyone else who wants to read my feelings and thoughts. See first blog about this conference. Thanks for your gracious rebuke and again, I have repented for my rhetoric and want to publicly apologize to you for my offense. Forgive me?
As far as 2 Kings. I don't want to get into this a whole lot. But how to be leaders and develop leaders is covered pretty explicitly in 1st and 2nd Timothy, not the 2 Kings passage that was used. It could illustrate this perhaps, but you're on shaking ground if your going there to teach leadership. I'm a snob, I know.
Forgiven.
I see your point on 2 Kings. I think as a theological passage on it's own it may be out of context, but as a illustration or story to support the point that as leaders we need to only look at what God has graced us with under our noses before casting the nets out for blessings.
I would, and I think you would, rather that scripture be used as the illustration than a trite story from sports or business to illustrate the point.
I admire your dedication to keeping scripture in context. Im with you there.
I love Josh Perry.
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