Manhood/Womanhood Debate on CNN
Hey guys. I'm going to post a little segment from CNN this week that I think will be helpful for us to hear.
It's an mini interview with Voddie Bauchum a baptist pastor from Texas. I've listened to some of his podcasts in the past years and he knows his Bible and he knows Jesus. The other is an "evangelical speaker" (not sure what that is) from Alaska that I know very little about.
I want to give a little disclaimer before you watch however. This interview is in the context of should Sarah Palin be a vice president in light of evangelical teaching on manhood and womanhood. That is not why I'm posting this interview. THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL BLOG OR POLITICAL COMMENTARY AND I DON'T CAMPAIGN OR EVEN COMMENT ABOUT THIS STUFF FROM THE PULPIT OF CREW. So, keep the comments about that out please.
I'm posting to demonstrate how this teaching about manhood and womanhood is received by popular culture and how the view of popular culture is seeping into the "evangelical" church. Notice how Voddie is labeled. Notice how Voddie uses Scripture and how the popular culture uses Scripture. Notice how he views the Bible and the gospel as opposed to popular culture. Worth your time to watch. The first bit is more news then interview so hang in there. It's good.
From Dennyburk.com.
It's an mini interview with Voddie Bauchum a baptist pastor from Texas. I've listened to some of his podcasts in the past years and he knows his Bible and he knows Jesus. The other is an "evangelical speaker" (not sure what that is) from Alaska that I know very little about.
I want to give a little disclaimer before you watch however. This interview is in the context of should Sarah Palin be a vice president in light of evangelical teaching on manhood and womanhood. That is not why I'm posting this interview. THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL BLOG OR POLITICAL COMMENTARY AND I DON'T CAMPAIGN OR EVEN COMMENT ABOUT THIS STUFF FROM THE PULPIT OF CREW. So, keep the comments about that out please.
I'm posting to demonstrate how this teaching about manhood and womanhood is received by popular culture and how the view of popular culture is seeping into the "evangelical" church. Notice how Voddie is labeled. Notice how Voddie uses Scripture and how the popular culture uses Scripture. Notice how he views the Bible and the gospel as opposed to popular culture. Worth your time to watch. The first bit is more news then interview so hang in there. It's good.
From Dennyburk.com.
posted by Josh Perry at
9:16 AM
2 Comments:
fascinating debate. both were well prepared and very articulate. and both were sincere in their belief that their interpretation of scripture was in fact right. his view was "boxy" while hers was "fast and loose".
voddie looks bad in this interview because he is swimming against the current of culture for sure. but also because of his view is the more rigid one...because of his clear adherence to sola scriptura. the gaping hole here is that people continue from ancient days until today to disagree on what scripture actually "says"...and how to live in light of it.
for an interesting perspective on literal interpretation of scripture, see A Year of Living Biblically by A. J. Jacobs.
the problem with sola scriptura is not that scripture fails to stand on its own. it surely stands. or rather, Jesus Christ himself the word made flesh stands and the scripture stands because of him. amen. the problem is that we have a human need to be assured in our beliefs and feel the security of being "right". and many times we will stand for our doctrine-assured orthodoxy and forget the humble posture of a servant...or a savior who washed the feet of his betrayer...
for a fitting and sad example, wikipedia jerry falwell.
remember friends, the catalyst that grows and moves the revolution that is the gospel and the kingdom of god is LOVE...and nothing else.
Thanks Tim. Good thinking, but I'm not sure I agree. Let me ask you this maybe:
So which view do you think was right? Not on Palin, but on women having a responsibility to their homes. One was termed boxy because it was countercultural or the one termed fast and loose because it used a passage on mutual submission to Christ and one another that is consistent with male headship and female submissiion to defend women taking on the duties of leadership and provision? I'm going to guess that you don't think we should care who is right. I'm a right? ;)
Also, who does Voddie look bad to? And should Voddie care about looking bad to them? I don't think he does. It could be argued that she "looks bad" for basing her views of God on cultural norms of her day.
Also, forget Sola Scriptura as atenet of the Reformation, which I think Voddie would agree with. Although he didn't mention it did he? But if Voddie believes 2 Tim. 3:16-17 and 2 Peter 1:20, which he does and Sola Scriptura is based on. Then he is right to claim the Bible has meaning. Someone is right, even if there is disagreement about who.
So Voddie is saying I'm going to take the Bible at face value as meaning what it says. Thus boxy to some. Where as fast and loose would be to interpret the passage in way that has no basis in the text. Is that misrepresentation by me? I wouldn't think so.
Lastly, we want to be right about such issues, not so we can say we're right. In fact, I have been wrong on this issue in the past and have changed, not because I want to be right, but because I've been convinced of the Scriptures teaching.
Didn't mean to go this long with this. But you know me. Thanks for th post Tim.
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